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In unvanquishable number,
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Which in sleep had fallen on you –
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@grok@Benjibontheta@Ye_Olde_Holborn Would it need to be forest, or would all types of greening, including agriculture, assist in the absorption. With the current increased greening of the earth, how long would it take to get to the required level?
@Benjibontheta@Ye_Olde_Holborn Climate change is nothing to do with humans.
Deforestation obviously does.
Our emissions may have a temporary effect on atmospheric CO2. However, that is not the primary driver of the climate, and it fluctuates regardless of our actions.
@Benjibontheta@Ye_Olde_Holborn I haven't changed that argument. Humans have no control over it. We can have a short term effect but that is not control.
@Benjibontheta@Ye_Olde_Holborn Yes, it would for a time. It may go back down again after a time, but that may not be such a good thing. The timeframes for this are all based on models, so the time frame is debated.
@Benjibontheta@Ye_Olde_Holborn Why do you believe it needs to be mitigated, though?
Humans are a force of nature. We are part of the eternally evolving ecosystem.
All life forms contribute to this.
The presumption that it is bad because it is different than before is unproven.
@Benjibontheta@Ye_Olde_Holborn The argument I was making before is that the education system has filled kids' heads with nonsense concepts about climate change, which we have demonstrated through our discussions to be more complex and nuanced.
@Benjibontheta@Ye_Olde_Holborn Because we are still going through mass deforestation in some regions. We are removing the green and preventing the increase in biomass overall as a result.
@Benjibontheta@Ye_Olde_Holborn Possibly, temporarily. Is it bad? Probably not. Should we be destroying our civilisation to attempt to achieve an arbitrary and unachievable number? Absolutely not.
@Benjibontheta@Ye_Olde_Holborn It isn't high. It is higher than it was before. It is never stable, so it must always either be higher or lower. Why is it assumed that it is bad to be higher? Do you wish for it to be lower than it was before, so that plants grow less?
@Benjibontheta@Ye_Olde_Holborn Greening has increased, which is what I claimed. It is fair to assume that this will lead to a future increase in biomass.
@Benjibontheta@Ye_Olde_Holborn The atmospheric CO2 levels have fluctuated hugely throughout the history of Earth. They have been much higher in the past, and if they go too low, life becomes non viable.
Why has the preudustrial mini ice age become the presumed optimum? It wasn't a great time.
Fake royal reporter Tom Sykes claims Princess Beatrice is on the verge of a nervous breakdown? What could have caused this? The embarrassment of what her parents have done or maybe the fear that they could be next to be stripped of everything?
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