@Dragosbeard@Azazel_2244@BestNewtype007 Pc / Steam gives you way more games (especially indie games) than console does which is cool. There’s mods or desktop mode if you’re into those but you still get more freedom even if you never leave SteamOS
@Dragosbeard@Azazel_2244@BestNewtype007 It has upgradable ram and storage and an ifixit partnership for parts and repair guides. That’s definitely more than you get with the usual consoles
@Catonzo88@EduardoU24@Grummz Comparing this hunk of junk with the most expensive version of the steam machine with a controller is disingenuous. Steam machine is absolutely worth 350 more than this just based on the fact that it’s not 3D printed garbage
@IceBreaker920@monly360 Complaining. Definitely still not niche. You’re like some weird uninformed console boot licker. Do some research that isn’t on ChatGPT and maybe you’ll understand what’s going on lol.
Goofy ass
@IceBreaker920@monly360 You’re definitely complaining lol. It’s really not niche or expensive for what it is and definitely better than the XSS but you do you ig
@IceBreaker920@monly360 It’s a PC. Just like any other PC it doesn’t come with a controller or keyboard and you can use any peripheral you want with it. It’s not an Xbox or PlayStation where only the first party controllers work well with it. I’m sure if it came with a controller you’d still complain.
@IceBreaker920@monly360 Just straight up not accurate. Now I’m sure you can add on peripherals to a bunch of PCs just like you can with the Steam Machine but they don’t just come with them.
@IceBreaker920@monly360 This argument is always stupid because like… when do PCs come with peripherals? What PC are you getting that comes with a keyboard or controller??
@solidarityhours@faizkyokaz Sure but we’re not talking about windows or smart phones. We’re talking about VR headsets. I’d much rather give my money and data to Valve over Meta and apparently so would you.
What are we arguing for?!
@solidarityhours@faizkyokaz Signing in with a Meta account is no different than signing in with a Facebook account. At the end of the day you’re giving your money and data to the same famously shady company
@solidarityhours@faizkyokaz You do tho?? A Facebook and a Meta account are functionally the same thing. Also the dream air starts at 2000 and doesn’t come with controllers. Not really comparable to the steam frame assuming it comes in under 1000 as expected.
@DarthXerros@SegaSnatchers@SevenLacroix Not sure how hardware prices from years ago are relevant. We’re talking about hardware prices now. If there was a Steam Machine four years ago it would be cheap and you’d probably still complain about it.
Also that’s a pretty big performance difference smh
@DarthXerros@SegaSnatchers@SevenLacroix Honestly pretty easy to justify with a starting price of 750 if you understand what the Steam Machine is. Also in the current climate, a steam deck with a dock is not that much cheaper and way less performant than a steam machine lol
@DarthXerros@SegaSnatchers@SevenLacroix A console like pc that plays your steam games seamlessly is not a hard sale, but as long as you keep comparing the price of a console like pc to a straight up console subsidized by PS+ or Xbox Game Pass, you’re gonna be disappointed
@DarthXerros@SegaSnatchers@SevenLacroix Holy fuck. It’s an accessible PC. Literally arguing with me about the only part of this that is impossible to argue. It is a PC full stop. Not a console. Which is why it’s priced like a PC and not a console. Valve has been saying it would be priced that way from the beginning.
@DarthXerros@SegaSnatchers@SevenLacroix So your answer to my question was yes. The Steam Machine has worse online capabilities because the games that do not work on Linux due to non proton fixable reasons continue to not work. Not sure what you want anyone to do about that lol
@SegaSnatchers@DarthXerros@SevenLacroix You’re completely missing the point. You want console prices from the Steam Machine. The Steam Machine is not a console. It is a PC and compared to other PCs, it’s priced pretty similarly.
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