Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

I was wearing two faces, the privileged and the doomed Joined August 2012

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

a week ago

@EWErickson oh a huge piece of shit supports them? well that's different, I'm going to need some time to process this.

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2 weeks ago

@mtracey idk man he seems like a huge loser who only huge losers would find interesting

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@somanyshrimp @2x10101010 and when the response tends towards "well, you have to think about what society will look like" or "it's not my job to educate you" most people are just not going to take you seriously and side with the reactionary people who are directly answering the questions

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

2 weeks ago

@somanyshrimp @2x10101010 And I realize that people ask these questions in bad faith all the time and it's exhausting. But normal people who aren't online all the time are going to have the same questions and i really think there have to be some answers that at least give them something to think about.

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

2 weeks ago

@somanyshrimp @2x10101010 That is a perfectly reasonable argument! I agree with many of its points! Do you think it would be satisfying to a moderate liberal who is being told by your enemies “these radicals want convicted rapists moving in next door to your family!”?

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

2 weeks ago

@somanyshrimp @2x10101010 I’m sorry i didn’t come up with one on my lunch break but if you’re genuinely committed to this ideology and post about it this much you should be able to answer questions without suggesting that everyone who asks them is doing it in bad faith

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

2 weeks ago

@somanyshrimp @2x10101010 Dude, the people actively working against it are pushing a narrative that impacts millions of people and makes them scared of change! You should have a counternarrative of your own if you want to have any chance of success!

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

2 weeks ago

@somanyshrimp @2x10101010 Idk there’s a lot of people who aren’t gonna be on board with this and you don’t seem to care about convincing them so i was wondering if that’s being taken into consideration

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

2 weeks ago

@somanyshrimp @2x10101010 Is the transformation happening via democratic means or…something else?

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

2 weeks ago

@somanyshrimp @2x10101010 Ok! So what are you going to say to the Citizen and Nextdoor users of this country when they raise objections?

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

2 weeks ago

@somanyshrimp @2x10101010 I’m not so down on humanity that i think a better society wouldn’t produce fewer sadists and sociopaths, but i don’t think that belief in a future better society is going to outweigh fear of criminals in the present.

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

2 weeks ago

@somanyshrimp @2x10101010 I just think if you want this to be anything other than theorizing, then you need an answer for the middle-aged CNN viewer who hears “prison abolition” and asks “so are you letting the serial rapist out of prison? How’s that gonna work?”

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

2 weeks ago

@somanyshrimp @2x10101010 But i think people are reluctant to say that because ‘reform’ sounds squishy, similar to police reform vs abolition. Someone can call you a faux radical who still wants to cage people.

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

2 weeks ago

@somanyshrimp @2x10101010 Well, the thing is that i never exactly know what prison abolition means - i think for some people it’s a level of reform that would make keeping people separate from greater society unrecognizable from what it is today

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

2 weeks ago

@somanyshrimp @2x10101010 well that agraybee guy definitely is, he fuckin sucks. But i think there are a lot of people who vaguely understand that our prison system is monstrous but also think you have to keep criminals away from society and i think you have to address their questions to get anywhere

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

2 weeks ago

@somanyshrimp @2x10101010 i want a radically altered society too but our current society feeds ppl a nonstop diet of “look at this evil psycho, good thing he’s in jail” and i think you have to give people a decent answer for “so are you letting those guys out or what?” that isn’t reframing the question

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Oliver Crane @RecordoftheTime

4 weeks ago

@zermatist idk man, it’s not an album where it all hits on first listen, get a little drunk and sentimental and put on “Loving Cup” and “Let it Loose” around midnight, might change your perspective