@arthurianmaiden@NemoEntropy@wwdititis@THEEBADDESTLES But tbh I do agree that calling Louis THE problem is prob overstating things bc obviously Lestat and Armand are also huge contributors to why their relationships with Louis were a mess, but I’m just explaining why I think they said that and why I don’t think it’s totally wrong
@arthurianmaiden@NemoEntropy@wwdititis@THEEBADDESTLES Okay, I see where you’re coming from. Well imo I do think you could see him as THE problem when it comes to his romantic relationships bc he chooses the person, but then he resists that choice and never fully commits to the other person in a real way. Both Lestat and Armand have-
@arthurianmaiden@NemoEntropy@wwdititis@THEEBADDESTLES I have acknowledged multiple times that I think Lestat also did wrong. All I’m saying is Louis also did and DOES have responsibility for his own choices and the situations he ends up in. He is a grown capable adult. Infantalizing him and acting as if he has no choices is not it.
@arthurianmaiden@NemoEntropy@wwdititis@THEEBADDESTLES Louis is a strong and intelligent person with his own agency. He is not only a victim. He did have power in his relationship with Lestat. Not as much as he should have, bc of the time period and the power imbalance with Lestat, but he did have choices he could’ve made and didn’t.
@arthurianmaiden@NemoEntropy@wwdititis@THEEBADDESTLES And again, I never said Louis was the only one who had any fault in creating these terrible situations, including with Claudia. Yes, Lestat knew he shouldn’t, and he did anyway, and that’s his wrong, but he told Louis why they shouldn’t and Louis literally begged him.
@arthurianmaiden@NemoEntropy@wwdititis@THEEBADDESTLES He was awake & aware when he was made a vampire. He literally knew the entire process & is also very intelligent. He just didn’t want to make a vampire, which is why he was so resistant to making Madeline & why he asked Armand to do it, bc he didn’t want that responsibility.
@arthurianmaiden@NemoEntropy@wwdititis@THEEBADDESTLES + choice. He’s not the only person who has a hand in creating those situations, true, but he DOES have a hand in it, and yet never truly takes responsibility, at least not yet.
@arthurianmaiden@NemoEntropy@wwdititis@THEEBADDESTLES + (Claudia/Daniel) to blow up the situation before leaving. Even with Claudia’s birth. He created the situation that caused that and then begged Lestat to fix it for him by making Claudia. He knew how to create vampires, he could have done it, but he didn’t want to truly own that
I feel that saying that Lestat was the cause of Louis's breakdown in 1x1 is incredibly disrespectful to what was going on in Louis's life. Louis's spiral is because of Jim Crow, his guilt, shame and internalized homophobia, Paul's death, and Florence's abuse. Straight up.
see I love Louis down but he is a cruel man. He WANTED to become a vampire. Vampirism ensures the power he craves. He was not scared of the turning - he was overwhelmed with his desire for Lestat and grappling with god-fearing remnants of a Christian upbringing - but
@nymfaerie@_kalikokat_ I think they get so upset bc they’re so set on seeing Lestat as a two dimensional villian instead of a complex fully realized character that they get angry when he’s presented with any three dimensionality bc they don’t want to feel for him in any way, they just want to hate him
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