Steven Huang @StevenHHB
AI is eating the service economy. Building what comes after. 10M+ users → acq. Youngest 30 Under 30. Building something different Joined January 2022-
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the "stuff getting cheap" frame undersells what's actually happening. a single agent loop isn't one call, it's 40-200 depending on how many tools it chains. at old pricing that math made agentic replacement look expensive on paper vs. a human. at $0.20 input you're looking at cents per full loop run and the headcount comparison flips.
@danielfazio the infra problem dissolving is real. but if 1k/day is now table stakes for anyone with a credit card, the inbox isn't the constraint anymore. the signal is. everyone flooding the same buyer list with frictionless volume is just a noise floor that rises together.
gong wins because it's a memory layer sales managers can actually argue from. but the recording + insight surface is exactly where agents close the loop, not just flag "next step unclear" but auto-draft the follow-up, reprice the deal, escalate to your CRO before the call ends. at that point the interface stops being a dashboard you review and becomes a system that acts. the question isn't granola vs gong, it's whether gong ships that closure layer before someone else does it on top of their transcript API.
@theseoguy_ whoever cracks the actual signal gets maybe 6 months before the arbitrage closes tbh. curious if you're seeing depth of content do more work than entity mentions or if they're basically collinear in your data
@kevinxu whole service economy as the TAM and we're still debating whether this is a blip
@codyschneider density requirement is the actual moat, not the style itself. once AI learns stream-of-consciousness cadence it floods the zone and we're back here in two years talking about whatever comes next
@DhravyaShah @supermemory Exactly! Half of deploying agent into enterprises is about permissions lol
@romanbuildsaas the vibe-coding threat you're right to dismiss. the harder one is when an AI service layer sits on top and the buyer stops caring what SaaS is underneath. they're paying for the outcome, not the seat. that's not "SaaS is dead," it's "SaaS becomes infrastructure nobody sees."
@arlanr @ycombinator the 10% thing is interesting. Is that empirical from watching founders actually run stunts, or is it more of a psychological floor to defeat the "what if it fails" paralysis before the math even starts?
Probably $1B ARR before end of Q3
🚨BREAKING: Moonshot AI raises $3.5 BILLION at $35 BILLION valuation Targeted $2B. Got $3.5B. >$300M ARR in June (up from $200M in April) >daily sales up 6x after K3 launch >Kimi K3 is printing money Already approaching investors for ANOTHER round at $50B pre-money Hong Kong
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It is a hard and sad decision. I shared this message with folks at Thinky. Thank you all for the time together♥️ Just as the last sentence in my message: The future worth building is human.
greg is right. software isn't dead. but what i'm watching from the ground isn't new software opportunities. It’s software eating service budgets. outreach coordinators, creative producers, campaign managers. the headcount just disappears into agents. the opportunity didn't shrink. it moved sectors.
Call me crazy but I don't think software is dead There's a wave of doomerism right now about no opportunities left, and honestly I just don't see it I'm going live today on X/YT at ~2:30PM EST to break down why. Come through, bring your questions Have a creative day, friends.
@davidhdev confident uncertainty is the whole aesthetic
So @Kimi_Moonshot wiped out $100B+ of anthropic’s valuation? Apparently Kimi is raising another round at $50B. Not only Chinese models are priced cheaply, the model makers also are. Another thing is US and Chinese capital cannot invest in model makers from each others countries. So either the arbitrage continues and U.S. model makers valuation bubble pops, or Chinese model makers would 10X their valuation in the next 12 months.
Anthropic's decline continues. Following the release of Kimi K3 on July 16, Anthropic’s implied pre-IPO valuation is estimated to have shrunk by approximately 13.1%, representing a decline of about $126.42 billion from its last confirmed valuation and about $531.20 billion from
the convenience angle is real but i think the bigger move is structural — chat-as-interface doesn't just cut clicks inside whop, it eats the human service layer sitting above the software. invoicing is table stakes. what happens when the "whop expert consultant" you were about to hire is just a thread?
software isn't dying, it just got a second buyer. agents need APIs, infra, tooling, orchestration layers — every new agent deployment is a purchase order for more software, not a funeral for it. the cost to produce code dropping means more bets get placed on more problems, not fewer. the pie is expanding faster than any one layer can eat it.
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