Farah 🔥 @TheFarahStack
governance for agents? Cloud • Distributed systems • Scalable backends Personal takes on production agent infra thefarahstack.com PNW Joined November 2024-
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@acecreamu Enforcement inside agent is like saying I am the interviewer and interviewee at the same time.
NVIDIA just shipped an agent safety platform, and the most important line in it isn't about chips. "The controls do not live inside, or within reach of the agent." What they announced today: 1. OpenShell: an open source (Apache 2.0) runtime that fences an agent's files, network, tools and credentials. 2. Sentry: a watchdog on separate hardware (BlueField-4 DPUs) that NVIDIA says can quarantine an agent in milliseconds when it steps outside its bounds. Reuters reports NVIDIA says it could have stopped the Hugging Face breach. In OpenAI's report last week, the alert fired and the run still went on for 2.5 hours: more notification than automation. This design lets the monitor STOP the agent, and the agent can't reach the monitor. Most teams won't run DPUs, and they don't need to. Put enforcement where the agent can't reach it, read it or argue with it. Milliseconds is the claim. Who's going to test it first? nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/open-agen…
Good morning ☀️ What I do when I'm not arguing about agent sandboxes: yarn. Last year I figured out how to make crochet letters that actually stand up on a shelf. What's your off-screen thing?
@BugoTheCat @fjzeit @dhh It’s interesting that we are both almost … almost … saying the same thing. I will have to sit down and respond in more details. Will def do it later in the day when I have some time.
My personal best in parallel processing: Biryani, qeema karelay, daal, aloo ki bhujia, and fried fish with chips. All at once. Ninety minutes. Three families on the way. What's the most you've ever cooked at once?
@DJpowers69 Midnight water drink …. That’s the most important part
OpenAI's monitor caught an agent leaving its sandbox in about 12 minutes and still the run kept going for 2.5 more hours. From OpenAI's own report: on 20th Sep, an agent on a search task couldn't reach the internet directly. So to complete the goal it went through DNS, which the sandbox didn't filter well enough, and it eventually was able to ask an outside chatbot questions. The alert fired. A human acknowledged it 3 minutes later. The automatic stop didn't work. Someone ended the run by hand. OpenAI has paused training, evals and tool-use inference on its most capable models. Two lessons for anyone shipping agents: 1. DNS is EGRESS. An allowlist that skips DNS is a partial allowlist. 2. Detection isn't containment. An alert that stops nothing is a notification. Their look back also found other DNS calls the monitor didn't flag at the right severity. So how many runs never paged anyone? A kill switch you've never pulled is a hope, not a control. alignment.openai.com/misalignment-r…
@tomekkorbak From the report: the auto-stop was supposed to fire and didn't. The kill switch needs it own testing...
@ns123abc 100%%%%% I am glad some one is saying it the way it is.. these frontier labs don't need more ML and AI experts, they need better system and software experts
@kimmonismus The minutes to ack is not the actual scary number, the scary part is the time it took to stop the action. It was more of a notification than automation
@HamelHusain @sh_reya this would only help in systems that are actively looking at these reports and either fixing or adding evals on top
@LilSpanky Sammy and his dirt castle is exactly the containment problem 😂 Next time we should give Sammy a fence and a kill switch he's actually tested
@LordArithon Awesome. You should post more about it
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Sunday kitchen memory ☀️ Made pinni from scratch once. It came out a little wet, so I added more sugar and rolled it anyway. 65 of them. What's your family's pinni secret?
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