Eren Zhang @TurcoHanDeva
interested in population genetics & history. yDNA "Q1a" mtDNA "D4" Munich Joined July 2026-
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Amazing X. Chang et al. 2026, full aDNA of Ningxia. Interesting is Zhou period (2.7 - 2.1k BP) nomadic part, mostly derived from Slab-Graves and all males are Q1a-M120, this is the same stock as Ordos culture that is long called Scythian but aDNA says otherwise
@AnthroA36331 I think so too, northern interior route I (Denisovan admixture) likely C2, NO (and K2b), northern interior route II (low/no Denisvoan) D1. One of the two or both had P1. Southern coastal route (proto-Australo) likely C1, F, MS, P2. Onge=mix of low/no Denisova interior + coastal
Peopling of East Eurasia: southern wave via India (proto-Australasian; high Denisovan) northern wave via Altai and the IAMC (Tianyuan-like, medium & low/no Denisovan) East Asians are variable mix of the two northern interior waves Andamanese Onge a mix of interior and coastal
@KinderheimRune Whatever this is, it is not West Eurasian ancestry🤣 Indians have barely 50%, even for Europe the maximum is 80% bc of Basal and East Eurasian admixtures. Middle East has 30% Basal and 5-10% East Eurasian.
@DanTabin It is the first time iirc that Yellow River farmers are modeled in qpAdm. YR_MN is modeled here as 56% Liangdao_EN and 44% Xinglong (XL9_7.5k). It is the main source for present-day Chinese. This makes me think that yDNA O was the ASEA main, while ANEA had mostly N, C2, and Q.
On ANEA expansions northwards (mostly N and C2 clades, as well as Q)
On YR_Farmers: x.com/TurcoHanDeva/s…
Also interesting: the qpAdm model for Yellow River Farmers (Proto-Sino-Tibetans) points to them deriving 56% ASEA and 44% ANEA like ancestries:
Expansions of ancient Eastern Asian groups in the last 10k years southwards (Yellow River farmers & ASEA types), replacing/merging with their deeply diverged HG cousins (Hoabinhians)
Our recent work illustrated Multiple southward migrations of Neolithic Chinese farmers into Southeast Asia | Science Advances science.org/doi/10.1126/sc…
Would also fit with the proposal by @StephPeyregne et al. A high-coverage genome from a 200,000-year-old Denisovan:
Based on previous data from CC Wang et al. 2021 & Yang et al. 2025 (Genomic Insights into the Formation of Human Populations in East Asia & An early East Asian lineage with unexpectedly low Denisovan ancestry)
@Tatsuya9JP @nrken19 @AnthroA36331 thoughts?
@Jam1377 Compare this extended version, with "outlier" pops within/nearby Eastern Asia and Europe respectively:
@AnthroA36331 What rights did you use? and what about z scores and std error?
@Tatsuya9JP I dont think it is correct. I can model East Asians as 70% Tianyuan + 30% Onge. The exact opposite, of yours, but similar to Yang et al. 2025.
@VSkotheim73298 @Tatsuya9JP What? 40% for Yana has frequently been reported in both qpGraph and qpAdm models by both academic and hobbyist reseachers. 36-42% Tianyuan ancestry. All new models do so. Earlier ones may have been 29-32%. Mine do at 35-42% too. Also in line with their Denisovan component!
@nrken19 full text link: cell.com/cms/10.1016/j.…
Also interesting: the qpAdm model for Yellow River Farmers (Proto-Sino-Tibetans) points to them deriving 56% ASEA and 44% ANEA like ancestries:
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@Tatsuya9JP Malta Buret UP ANE has 33% Tianyuan, also shares its Denisovan components. Even Sunghir UP has 2% Tianyuan and little Denisovan.
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