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@rperezmarco @Michael_Druggan @TerreMath @AnthropicAI Being able to work together with an expert such as Tristan requires nontrivial skills and knowledge in both AI and math. Levent is very unusual in having this in a broad range of areas. His access to to an internal model is a significant but not sole factor.
@AdrianTMiranda @rperezmarco @TerreMath Amen. No idea why he needs to say these things.
@rperezmarco @Michael_Druggan @TerreMath @AnthropicAI You’re posting nonsense. How do you know Levent did not contribute to the math? Such nasty attacks are justified only if you have facts to back them up. Never having any prior papers in a subject is not evidence. Anyone who switches fields does this.
@rperezmarco @TerreMath Are the experts in analytic number theory saying they should have been co-authors? Is it normal for people who have reviewed the correctness of a paper to be co-authors?
@TerreMath @rperezmarco Levent is an employee of Anthropic. The CEO is willing to allow him to use the internal model during off hours, even though his day job has nothing to do with math.
Happy, those able to know the causes of things.Really insightful post by Nestor on how to frame the current progress in mathematics by LLMs and by AI companies. birdsnfrogs.github.io/2026/09/12/Fel…
@scottnarmstrong Scott, is the OpenAI proof very different from what Tristan and Levent did?
@scottnarmstrong @marcinnaps @SebastienBubeck Sebastien is no longer the one to plead to.
In OpenAI vs. Anthropic, an N.Y.U. Mathematician Comes Out Bruised nytimes.com/2026/09/10/sci… via @nytimes
Worth noting: Tristan and Levent’s spectacular work used only commercially available models. No internal models were used. It was all funded by Tristan’s grant money.
@emilyriehl This is correct. The initial version had no reference to their work at all. The only references were essentially historical ones. Their announcement (openai.com/index/navier-s…) still has no reference to their work. This is completely shameful.
@BlackHC Normally I would have agree with you. But it’s weird that OpenAI is unable to say categorically that this could not have happened and instead says it’s possible.
@aisafetycompute @MaleManlpulator They were using both. Probably in parallel. Since it was Tristan’s grant money, the accounts are probably in his name
“we cannot rule out that de-identified data derived from their usage of our products helped improve our models.” i mean props to them for straight coming clean. (so far the proof looks more along the lines of another euler blowup proof we had, off of whose ansatz naming we were making really stupid puns like “smooth criminale”, unlike the much better “ideal fluids explode”, Tristan) so i’ll now give a bit on my thinking here. i actually woulda been pumped to collaborate on this, there are a lot of people at oai i like (ok, clearly some were indirectly dicks to me because of being part of the whole situation, but im a big boy, i still like them), idgaf about authorship on that step anyway, coulda been me Tristan and every fte at oai for all i care (on that Tristan would disagree:p). but on hearing the loud convo in the hallway, especially the part where a millennium prize was offered if i’d just be removed from the paper, it was kinda clear the die had been cast and things were locked. pretty wacky, unstrategic, and unnecessary, since on my side things were mostly me and claude having a good time yoloing random stuff in the corner rather than anything institutional. i also like the idea of the labs cooperating, and even better on scientific progress. it’s a shame!
We congratulate Levent Alpöge and Tristan Buckmaster on their remarkable mathematical work. We (the researchers and the agents) did not see any of their work through any means until they released it publicly — in particular, no specific user data was accessed in order to solve
@lpachter @scottnarmstrong For now you’ll have to settle for a New York Times article. I believe one will appear shortly.
@littmath Perfect reaction. Those are the two who should get the (positive) attention. Best part of Tristan’s statement.
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