Enabling languages @enablelanguages

Developing ICT and web solutions for lesser used and minority languages. github.com/enabling-langu… Melbourne, Australia Joined October 2009

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11 months ago

@zenodotus But the new lib sector specs don't leverage the I18N improvements in W3C specs.

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11 months ago

@zenodotus Not that I am aware of. The library specific standards fall outside of W3C. There were some library sector people involved in linked data specs but honestly, I18N was an uphill battle with those specs. But horizontal reviews make it easier these days.

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11 months ago

@zenodotus Well, if it's broken, it's broken, part or whole. But you know my position is, it's the system. The real question is can it be fixed. And the following question is whether there is anyone in a position to take responsibility for fixing it.

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@zenodotus Systemic as in it is categorised as a marginal consideration so less resources? Or systemic as in an artefact of colonialism and néocolonialisme?

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@zenodotus And vendors are a problem more than a help

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@zenodotus Part of the problem is resourcing. Individual institutions aren't necessarily in a position to have an I18N specialist, and there isn't anyone to provide guidance and assistance.

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11 months ago

@zenodotus My gut reaction is that existing momentum is built on flawed approaches.

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@zenodotus Not familiar with the Dr

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@zenodotus I was thinking also in terms of new records as well. The meta framework. Native first, romanisation as an assist. Which is the reversal of a costing practice

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@zenodotus Yes and no, that is an attempt to convert from romanised to native. But considering how much of a sieve tables can be, more robust mechanisms are needed. Data is lacking.

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11 months ago

@zenodotus Doesn't address versioning which is a key element.

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@zenodotus W3C I18N WG has done a lot of work in this area. What libraries are lacking is people with the knowledge, skills and experience to apply it to this domain

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11 months ago

@zenodotus Unfortunately full bcp-47 is needed. Iso-639-3 by itself doesn't cut it.

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@zenodotus There quite a few other things but that's a start. Once interesting area would be getting bidi and vertical text working correctly in UIs, but getting bibframe up to speed with yhos would be the first step.