Rick K @RickK101

Lucky husband to wonderful wife and father to amazing children. Lover of facts and defender of reality. Liberalism and diversity are what make America strong. New England Joined March 2013

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Rick K @RickK101

21 hours ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ I told you already but you ignore it because it’s inconvenient to your predetermined conclusions. The evidence is insufficient to rule out a group delusion or hoax. Delusions and hoaxes are common, supernatural miracles rare to nonexistent.

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Rick K @RickK101

22 hours ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ No, they're going to help you use your brain better. Skepticism is hard work. Questioning yourself and your own beliefs is hard. But the rewards are great - if you value being right over wrong.

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Rick K @RickK101

a day ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ These will help. “Don’t Believe Everything You Think” by Kida “How We Know What Isn’t So” by Gilovich “The Skeptics Guide to the Universe” by Novella “The Demon-Haunted World” by Sagan

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Rick K @RickK101

a day ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ I was clear. Zero evidence from anyone who didn’t have a vested interest in elevating the status of Jesus. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I’m sorry that you’ve managed to get this far in life without learning the basics of critical thinking. Here…

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Rick K @RickK101

2 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ You have zero eyewitness or independent accounts of the resurrection. You have 4 accounts written by believers, all of which have disputed authorship. Everybody involved was motivated to elevate Jesus and validate their own life choices. That's not evidence, it's a...

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Rick K @RickK101

2 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ Outside of scripture, how many supernatural events do you believe really happened? How do you filter those you believe from all that you don't?

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Rick K @RickK101

2 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ Now you're just bullying me with the verbosity of your blue checkmark. Nothing I've said indicates I don't know more about the content and origins of scripture than you. Do you follow any Biblical scholars or read their books? How many non-canonical gospels have you read?

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Rick K @RickK101

2 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ So you're saying that, since ancient claims of supernatural events can't be proved using solid evidentairy standards, then we should just believe the stories we like and reject those we don't. Is that right? In other words, we're back to your approach: "Believe first". Nope

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Rick K @RickK101

2 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ The same as would be required if it happened today - enough to rule out a hoax or delusion by multiple motivated people. Actually the LDS shows us how major global religions form. It’s very instructive of how Christianity was born. All it takes is belief, not evidence.

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Rick K @RickK101

2 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ It was just an exploration of how much actual evidence is needed to convince you. But you already made it clear - none at all. You start with the belief then worry about evidence and apologetics later. Which is pretty standard behavior. No thanks.

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Rick K @RickK101

3 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ And scripture convinces me that someone said someone else said they heard that Jesus rose from the dead. And everyone involved was already motivated to believe they had been following a divinely powerful man. So all were probably disappointed when he died.

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Rick K @RickK101

3 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ So believe first, then work out the facts and the reason why later. Got it. To me that seems too much like surrendering intellectual integrity. I’ll pass.

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Rick K @RickK101

3 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ Is your misinterpretation intentional?Did I ask whether Joseph Smith was real? No, I was very clear. The evidence for the existence of the golden plates is much higher quality than the evidence for the resurrection. Do you believe the golden plates were real?

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Rick K @RickK101

3 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ When you can "reinterpret" so freely that a prophecy about a prince from Bethlehem named Emmanuel is fulfilled by a pauper from Nazareth named Jesus, then my earlier statement is indisputable: "Follow Jesus" can mean almost anything - your premise is as clear as smoke in a fog.

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Rick K @RickK101

3 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ Is slavery wrong? List the verses condoning slavery alongside the verses condemning it. Free will? Count the verses concerning God's purpose or God's plan, and set them aside the verses mentioning man's free will. Genocide - more frequently condemned or condoned?

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Rick K @RickK101

3 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ *sigh* You're quite the dancer. Are you convinced that Joseph Smith's golden plates were real? Because the evidence for their existence is much higher quality than the evidence for Christ's resurrection.

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Rick K @RickK101

3 days ago

@1Quetzalcoatl1 @minenhle_cele_ @Bignemz_ That's the beauty of scripture - there's so much of it and it's so contradictory. Christian scripture has been wielded by both sides of moral debates for millennia. It's a giant Rorschach ink blot, where anyone can see what they want in it. So "Follow Christ" is meaningless.

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Rick K @RickK101

3 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ The competing views don't matter. All that matters is the original evidence. What do we have? Mark and "Q". Everything else is derivative, and even they are hearsay. We have written and sworn eyewitness testimony of the golden plates. Does that convince you? Are you LDS?

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Rick K @RickK101

3 days ago

@alanf_feld @jstreetdotorg Atrocities are committed daily by both sides in roughly comparable numbers. There will never be peace because neither side wants it. The rest of the world should just stop support of both sides and focus on problems that can be solved. Alas, war is too profitable to ignore.

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Rick K @RickK101

3 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ And while you’re arranging that, you can answer the one simple question I asked you in my post.

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Rick K @RickK101

3 days ago

@minenhle_cele_ @1Quetzalcoatl1 @Bignemz_ Sure! Get together with the Catholics, Pentecostals, the Prosperity Gospel folk, LDS, the Eastern Orthodox, the Christians who revere gold-plated philandering billionaires, the Quakers and the Amish and give me a definition of what it means to “follow him” and I’ll answer.