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@VasiliyZukanov With the right architecture, Compose can just get a flow of UI states and have no coupling to the actual logic. Now, if people like to call APIs from their views, that's another matter entirely...
@GergelyOrosz I feel like these kinds of experiences are just exposing how hit and miss recruitment as a whole is. Having someone with such a stellar recommendation jump through so many hoops to finally just pass is such a huge waste of resources for everyone...
@VasiliyZukanov I genuinely don't understand why they'd do that, breaking so many apps which will just draw the bars manually anyway. And I also don't understand why the Scaffold doesn't add those paddings now either... How did you fix it?
@JorgeCastilloPr Real architecture is important. If you cannot put some data into new UI because "it wasn't built that way" that means your UI is too coupled to your logic, and no amount of "domain" layers will change that. Architecture is all about properly separating components.
@Zhuinden Yeah, navigation is domain because it's application logic, not UI logic. But I'd go one further and put the implementation into what I like to call the platform layer (and KMP too I guess), basically any Android interactions that don't fit into UI or data.
@ChrisKruegerDev I've made my own that actually has a reason for separation: adriantache.com/architecture/
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@JorgeCastilloPr As a big fan of Compose Multiplatform, I feel the issue for all these frameworks is that sooner or later you need to write native solutions to problems. Having said that, if you have a good architecture (which separates all the core logic from ui/platform logic) why repeat code!
@JorgeCastilloPr Google Assistant still lives! You can toggle between it and Gemini. But an old Google Home device is still better, it processes commands faster and only gives a soft confirmation beep instead of the uncanny valley responses Gemini insists on giving.
@theo My biggest issue with it is that it's still not very user friendly, as it doesn't let you set default quality for videos, and still shows things like end cards, doesn't display dislikes, etc.
@zsmb13 Oh, I have a new one: how is the Kotlin Multiplatform plugin not multiplatform itself?! 🤯
@donnfelker In my experience it's not necessarily faster, it's just different. You write a lot less boilerplate, or code in general, but you need to trade that time for babysitting the AI and guessing how it might be wrong. If you have a different workflow, I'd love to hear it.
@zsmb13 Thanks for the info, I'll give it another try this weekend, since I imagine there are more resources for it now.
@zsmb13 Just a simple, out of the box solution for it, ideally Dagger/Hilt. I only use KMP for my personal projects so I haven't taken the time to learn kotlinx-inject (and when I was looking into last year I think it there weren't a lot of resources out there).
@programadorthi @JorgeCastilloPr Funnily, I've never had an issue with that, unless someone was doing it with combined Flows, in which case the UI just crawls to a halt.
@Zhuinden I completely agree that unit tests should test behavior and not structure. I also personally feel that mocking is evil, I much prefer fakes and stubs. But perhaps in contradiction to you, I feel unit tests should cover small pieces of code, in order to help very quickly spot bugs
@VasiliyZukanov There is no way Flutter is that popular, those percentages are nonsense
@relizarov They do it to keep you in the app, boosting their engagement metrics and also giving them analytics to everything you do in those tabs. Some more malicious apps, like TikTok, even use that to block certain websites.
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