Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

Vice President, Academic @ Redeemer University | PhD theology | author of Pentecostal Experience (https://t.co/lKDa7fUcaT) pneumanntology.wordpress.com Pickering, ON Joined May 2010

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

3 years ago

@jimstump_ @dan_herbison @WhenBeliefDies Matthew Bates argues that *pistis* is probably best understood as fitting the category of allegiance (loyalty to), which fits well with your approach. We can commit ourselves to allegiance to Christ, while still struggling with doubts, etc.

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

3 years ago

@timschindel @PattiTheMiller We should team up! 🤣

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

4 years ago

@PattiTheMiller So sorry.

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

4 years ago

@theB4NP In and through Jesus, God is making everything right.

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

4 years ago

@RandalRauser I appreciate your work, but this comment is a clear miss. Of course they know God is omnipresent. But God's presence & activity is not always manifest w/ the same intensity in all times and places. E.g., OT Shekinah glory; NT encounters with the Spirit (Acts 2,4,8,10,19).

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

4 years ago

New post after a long hiaitus! peterneumann.ca/2023/02/06/the…

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

4 years ago

@DavidDark @wakesndogs No, I think we are responsible. But again, even if it were said in person, I wouldn't take TK's statement as SA. It is a personal strong conviction, probably overstated. But there's no coercion here unless he employs tactics to hinder my ability to disagree or think it through.

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

4 years ago

@DavidDark @wakesndogs I did read your definition & commented earlier. I appreciate your conscience on this important matter. I'm just not convinced that a tweet by TK falls into the category of SA (or language of), since there's more criteria needed.

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

4 years ago

@CatholicUnicorn Not sure I'm following your point.

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

4 years ago

@BethMooreLPM Ironically, apparently Edwards loved spiders too, and would spend time studying them!

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

4 years ago

@benintn @DavidDark @rickpidcock I'm sensitive to SA as well & teach & advocate for identifying all AoP in Xn organizations. But too quickly labeling SA doesn't help in the long run. We need clear criteria. Offering life wisdom abt what I think is most important for Xn faith (Bible, serving poor, etc) isn't SA.

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

4 years ago

@benintn @DavidDark @rickpidcock But SA is not the same as strongly sharing a conviction. We have all likely overspoke a conviction with good intent. It's true that in repetitive doses this could be harmful. But unless there's careless or malicious attempt to coerce psychologically, I'm reticent to call it SA.

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

4 years ago

@benintn @DavidDark @rickpidcock SA, like AoP can occur many times w/o the intent of the offender, although we usually should know better. So AoP and SA needs to be judged by both its harm (it needs to be addressed) and also intent (when it comes to the level of discipline for the offender). 4/...

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

4 years ago

@DavidDark @benintn @rickpidcock Spiritual abuse needs to be more than simply sharing a conviction (even if overstated). It has to coerce & violate personal boundaries, (mis)using God as the authority behind my coercion. TK's post is not using coercive language IMO.

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Peter Neumann 🇨🇦 @pdneumann

4 years ago

@DavidDark @benintn @rickpidcock I just didn't think TK's post was aimed at shaming anyone. It was focused on his belief that reading the Bible is really important. He believes this and is stating it. There's no, "& if you don't you're a failure & hopeless" etc. 1/2