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I'd also like to point out that southeast Manhattan, especially LES, East Village, and Bowery, has one of the highest regarded and most competitive cocktail scenes on the planet. it is beyond reasonable to expect the bartenders there to be at the top of their game.
so many people are getting mad at this and I'm just chuckling. you all have such low standards! if I'm paying $15-18 for a drink, I expect the bartender to know what a fucking French 75 is!
they’re literally classic cocktails and people in *cocktail bars* know what they’re are. i get that the most experimental you’ve ever gotten with alcohol is maybe a moscow mule, but actual cocktail bartenders know martini variations.
@Material_Blade in fairness, depending on the type of bar and the volume of drinks you're expected to serve, a drink like the LIIT is an incredibly obnoxious thing to ask for. it's like six or seven separate pours, which is a lot of labor for what is ultimately kind of a gimmicky drink
@heavenly_otter indeed! at least as I understand it, it was named that because it kicks like a 75mm flak shell
finish: licorice root and angelica. sweet, lingering, pleasant. somewhat to my surprise, I think this might actually be an acceptable substitute until I can get my hands on some actual Chartreuse
palate: syrupy sweet, chamomile for sure, anise, orange peel, bit of juniper. overall a lot more complex than I gave it credit for at first blush; I keep finding new aromas every time I take a smell or a sip. much too sweet to drink on its own though
SPEAKING OF CHARTREUSE (which is kinda what kicked off this thread), I have had an absolute bastard of a time finding any, just like everyone else, but just today I picked up a bottle of Fontbonne, a French herbal liqueur which purports to be of a somewhat similar make. we'll see
so many people are getting mad at this and I'm just chuckling. you all have such low standards! if I'm paying $15-18 for a drink, I expect the bartender to know what a fucking French 75 is!
@vampirecoffee unfortunately as soon as you said "hotel bartender" I couldn't even feign surprise. not all of them, but many if not most hotel bars have easily the biggest gap between the quality of liquor on their shelves and the caliber of the barstaff
@JamesTCarterII @madisontayt_ absolute case in point lol
@JamesTCarterII I'm absolutely certain I've had that reaction about other things so yeah that makes total sense lol. I try to take such things as a lesson in humility, but it's not always easy
obviously I'm not going to get upset if the bartender at a dive bar has never heard of a Clover Club, because their job isn't mixology, it's slinging beers and shots, often at volumes that would make building a 3+ pour cocktail impractical
@job_gyhb @madisontayt_ @barbieshitposts this is especially true of anyone who has spent any amount of time serving "classic" cocktails, as the older ones especially are often classed into families due to similarities in ingredients or preparation: Collins, fizz, flip, highball, Martini, etc.
@job_gyhb @madisontayt_ @barbieshitposts it's a list I would expect any bartender at an actual cocktail bar to at least have as a reference, and absolutely to know a significant number of them off the dome even if they might have to double-check the proportions.
@Tragedy_Andy @6kfmu @madisontayt_ if they have a well-stocked shelf and a competent bartender, a Last Word is a completely normal thing to order. it's probably in every bar book made since the 1920s
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